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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 16, 2005 21:18:06 GMT -5
I will start... here is my newest philosophical view (that i made during seminar today that actually stopped everyone in 5 minuites after i said it for 2 whole hours!! ;D) and it is thus, and thus it is: Perfection cannot be achieved if imperfection exists, therefore, with a human being involved, nothing can be perfect. For if we are to achieve perfection, we would have to eliminate all humans from earth in order to destroy imperfection!
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Post by thetalkinggrunt on Nov 17, 2005 9:52:04 GMT -5
wow...............that makes sense, but you forgot that Jesus was perfection, and that he lived among imperfection
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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 17, 2005 19:35:36 GMT -5
but he was born by unconventional means, and was an incarnation of G-d, not a product of his boredom!
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Post by thetalkinggrunt on Nov 20, 2005 15:21:45 GMT -5
that is true.......but remember he was fully God and fully Man!
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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 20, 2005 21:02:51 GMT -5
but by being either he could never be the other therefore he was his own antithesis!
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Post by thetalkinggrunt on Nov 20, 2005 21:31:32 GMT -5
hmmm, That-is certainly something I never would have thought of. I think I might have to consult some people on that, and most of those people have seen or know about this site, so there is no chance of my misquoting that.
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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 20, 2005 21:36:27 GMT -5
consult a deacon lol
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Post by Phayun-C on Nov 21, 2005 19:58:57 GMT -5
Absolutely false. Perfection can be easily described as "the lack of imperfection", just as imperfection can be described as the lack of perfection. It's the whole "good can't exist without evil" thing, really. So, that kinda nulls your whole "humans must die for perfection" thing.
The "Jesus is his own antithesis" thing is also false. While most humans are decidedly imperfect, imperfection is not an absolute value of humanity. It's the prevalent, not the necessary. Since we're going on the fact that Jesus is the son of God, we must also go on the fact that humans were made in the image of God - perfection. We just all kinda suck at being humans.
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Post by thetalkinggrunt on Nov 21, 2005 20:01:33 GMT -5
I agree Phayun, we do stink at being human.
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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 22, 2005 23:07:42 GMT -5
i am glad that you gleaned the point i was trying to make alcaeus ;D i have taught you well!
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Post by Phayun-C on Nov 23, 2005 0:42:38 GMT -5
Lol, I completely refuted everything you said here... But, I got your point? Some sort of reverse-psychology going on here?
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Post by thetalkinggrunt on Nov 23, 2005 11:59:58 GMT -5
I dont know Phayun, I just dont know......
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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 23, 2005 13:57:07 GMT -5
seriously! this is the "Deep Thinkings" portion of the site, so i made a thing that would make you think deeply and try to make an opposite point from! i did that to my psichiatrist once and made a bet for my next session to be free (i won ;D)
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Post by Phayun-C on Nov 23, 2005 16:24:45 GMT -5
Lol, bull. You just got pwanned, and dun wanna admit it Okay, next philosophical view thanger. I've already posted this once a while back, but I think Kenoku is the only one who saw it. Over the summer, it came to my attention that the accepted practice of building relationships is actually no better than what is usually considered shallow and heartless. The accepted practice of building relationships, currently, is to choose friends/mates based on their personality. Choosing to start a relationship based on physical appeareance or attributes is considered completely and totally shallow and base. But, actually, they're almost entirely on the same level. Think about it. I am friends with cows because of his personality. More specifically, I am friends with cows because his personality appeals to me. He makes me laugh, and I enjoy being around him. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. However, I still have a relationship with him because his personality pleases me. Now, if I was friends with cows because of his rugged good looks, or his popularity, that would be horrible, right? Maybe, but it would have the same motivation as my real-life relationship. Something about him pleases me. The vast majority of relationships are built and sustained by the fact that two people have attributes that please each other, whether these attributes be physical appearance, possessions, or personality. So having a relationship with someone because of their personality is every bit as selfish as having a relationship with someone because of their looks. So, what is the true, noble, honorable way to seek and build relationships? Or are we just unfairly bashing those who build seemingly shallow relationships because of things other than personality? (Bwaha! Now we're getting into more untravelled areas.)
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Post by [QVC]-Branmuffin on Nov 24, 2005 12:18:47 GMT -5
wow, yes we are alcaeus! so, umm... what does that make me on the "he's my friend because..." chart?
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